04 June 2009

The Agony Continues

Back before BooBaaa was born, I wrote a long post about The Agony of Finding the Right Name for my boys. And my naming "rules". Because finding the right name is hard, especially the perfect boy's name.

Or so I thought.

Because picking the perfect girl's name is turning out to be even harder.

Maybe it's because we're only going to have the one girl. Or because it's our last wee one, period. Or maybe it's because there are just so many lovely girl names out there. Or maybe I'm just incredibly indecisive. But I have had baby girl names on the brain for weeks and weeks, and I'm still agonizing over which few names will be the ones we 'take with us' when I go into labor.

And we've barely touched upon middle names yet!

Kat raised the "naming of the girl" topic today over at her place, Seeking Sanity. And I admit I was rather relieved to see I'm not the only one who always thought I'd know exactly what I would name my daughter if I ever had the privilege of having one, but now that I'm actually having one, I'm seriously waffling. There are soooo many lovely girl names out there. And as a result, some of my 'sure thing' name combination options aren't looking so 'sure thing' anymore. In fact, a whole slew of girls names that I have always loved and thought I would give ultra-serious consideration to were almost immediately "off the table" for a whole variety of reasons.

For fun, then, like Kat, I thought I would do a Thursday Thirteen List of Girl Names that I really love. Unlike Kat, however, my list will be girl names that, while loved and admired, we will NOT be using for our impending Lambchop for a variety of reasons.


13 Girly Names We Won't Be Using

1. Freya.
I adore the name Freya. In fact, back when I was pregnant with Boo, before I knew Boo was a "he", Freya was at the top of my list for a wee girl. It's a gorgeous name that doesn't even crack the top 1000 list in the U.S., which is a head-scratcher for me because it's a chronic top 20 name in England and Scotland. But, sadly, that's why we took it off our list now that we're actually having a girl; it's waaaay too popular here. I see so many little Freyas everywhere I go here. If we lived in the states, this would be our likely choice. But we don't, so it's out.

2. Malia. Another long, long-time favorite name. One of my sister's best friends growing up was named Malia; and I fell even more in love with it during my six years in Hawaii. It's just so pretty when it rolls off the tongue. But then we elected a new President last year, and guess what? His oldest girl's name is Malia, which means it's going to go straight up the popularity charts. Plus, it's Hawaiian, and my husband isn't quite as keen on the idea.

3. Triona. My love of celtic and irish music led me to this name years ago. It's a shortened version of Catriona or Caitriona. But my husband pointed out that, technically, I was pronouncing it wrong (tree-oh-nah) when it should be pronounced like 'trina'. And he was only willing to consider the full version of Catriona, which faces the same pronuncation issues, which I'm not as keen on. Plus, we already have an Auntie Trina, which violates one of my existing naming rules. (Not to mention the fact that a good friend made fun of it years ago, but I forgive her. She had a good point. heh heh)

4. Audrey. Audrey is just a lovely, lovely name, made famous by the even lovelier Ms Hepburn. But it's been screaming up the charts in the U.S. the past few years, and is clearly headed for the top 20 very soon. An old-fashioned name that is clearly coming back around, and rightfully so. But its popularity means it's not for us.

5. Leilani. Another gorgeous Hawaiian name that I've always admired; another 'no' from my husband.

6. Lorelei. Ditto the Hawaiian gorgeousness. And made even more mainstream in popularity by the quirky television series The Gilmore Girls. And now envision the 'too Hawaiian' name being vetoed by my husband with the addition of an eye-roll. Sigh.

7. Adele. Another lovely, old-fashioned name that I think deserves to make a comeback. But I also can't quite imagine giving it to a baby because it still sounds like an "older" name. I suspect that's the reason it still hasn't re-entered the top 1000 names in the U.S. We'd have to use a nickname, like Ada (and we have one of those in the family already, so 'no') or Addie while Lambchop was little. And, to be honest, I'm not huge on nicknames, so it's an unlikely choice for us.

8. Violeta. Pronounced vee-oh-letta, I think this is a very pretty, sweet name for a girl. A lovely flower name, the prettier version of Violet. But one of Ramekin's best friends on our street is named Violeta, so no go.

9. Annika. On paper, and on the tongue, the name fits all of our potential naming criteria. It's a lovely Scandinavian name (Swedish, though, not Norwegian), which would probably delight my Norwegian MIL. But after much --and I mean much-- consideration while I seriously considered it, I just don't think it will work with our childrens' last names. There's just something not quite right about it for us.... so it was with regret I took it out of serious contention. (I suppose it could make a comeback, though...you never know.)

10a and 10b. Ailsa and Isla. Both names are beautiful, traditional Scottish girl names that my Scotland-born husband really likes. But Isla is incredibly popular right now, so I'm not interested in using it. And, while Ailsa is lovely, the truth is, it sounds foreign coming off my tongue. I struggle to pronounce it properly, and I want a name I can easily pronounce for my own daughter. When I say Ailsa, it sounds more like Elsa, an almost equally lovely Scandinavian name, and, incidentally, the name of one of my husband's (now deceased) Norwegian Aunts. But we know a four-month old Elsa. And I don't like the look of it as much as Ailsa. So it lingers on the discarded names list.

11. Serena. Pretty, but ruined by the existance of the teeny bopper television show Gossip Girl. I can only imagine how many younger moms-to-be will be using this name for their own daughters in the coming years.

12. Joelle. Getting really tired of my husband's eye rolls, which is what I got when I suggested it. And a reminder that we're not French.

13. Arlette. My husband again reminds me that we're not French, the party-pooper.

Bonus round: A few additional lovely, old-fashioned girly names we won't be using because they're just too darn popular over here, all in the top 20: Hannah; Charlotte; Olivia; Lily.




So those are some of the names I really like that we probably won't be using. And I'll continue to roll around our dwindling list of names in my head and out loud when I think no one can see me talking to my tummy. Not to mention continually browsing the internet for names I might have overlooked.

And don't even get me started on our tentative ideas for a middle name ... we can't even begin to address that until we have a first name! Plus our middle name selection is less likely to be 'mainstream'.

Sigh.

So what are your thoughts on girly names?

27 comments:

Kat said...

Wow. I think we have similar taste in names. Of course, Audrey made my list. I don't like it when the name becomes too popular, but as long as it isn't in the top 10 in my area, I'm okay with it.

I have ALWAYS loved Lorelei (though I think I just spelled it wrong). So pretty.

Serena almost made my list, but the hubby doesn't like that one at all.

I'm trying to think of some names for you that you might like and are not too popular.
Lydia?
Aubrey?
Ivy?
Jacinda?

I don't know. There are just SO MANY good girlie names out there.

What you haven't told us is the names that HAVE made your list. Come on now. Spill the beans!

Aunt Becky said...

Her name should be "Aunt Becky."

Chennette said...

you know i just wanted to ensure that no child of yours be made fun of by people with my sense of humour, but without the love :-D
and if I'd known the proper pronunciation it may not have occurred to me, although who knows...I quite liked
Tree on a Wind for a wholesome earth-loving, tree-hugging name ;-)
(ducking)

I know a few Arlettes, and they're nice enough but the name never really sounded pretty to me, must be the ARR at the beginning, which we pronounce AH anyway...I like Olivia but I've been watching too much SVU recently and I don't really like Mariska Hargitay.
Since you like the L's, how about Lenore. Lenore Raven ;-) She could go round being spooky and whenever you were banning her from watching tv or something you could tell her...wait for it...Nevermore!

Ok, this is what happens when I finally break free from my meetings. I'll stop now before you revoke my invitation to visit the Lambchop.

slouchy said...

Ones I loved (and, needless to say, never used):

Julia
Caroline
Ella
Mia
Isabel

Heather said...

I also didn't want my kids' names to be too popular. We once considered Olivia, but its popularity ruled it out for me. I also like Addison, but again, popularity lately.

Audrey was my grandmother's name and I wanted to name our first daughter Audrey but husband vetoed. He would have agreed for second daughter, but the name was too popular by then.

Other girl names I like? (And I haven't looked into the popularity so sorry if they are popular!)

Marina
Rachel
Layne
Brooke
Harley
Morgan
Tamara
Emma
Dana
Delia
Kiera
Ruby

That's just a few! Also, I'm not listing my girls' names because I don't want to promote their popularity! :)

Lady M said...

Such pretty names!

For the names that are duplicates of local friends - are you certain you'll be running in the same social circles forever? One of Q-ster's friend's younger brother was just named the same name as our baby, but none of us worried about it too much. I could see it being a problem if you were always socializing together though!

Bounty said...

You can search the top 100 boys/girls names at http://www.bounty.com/babynames/ plus you can search by meaning and origin if that is important to you? I just had my little boy, called him Marlow! Good luck with it all sweetie, ;-) xxx

kgirl said...

I love a lot of the names on that list! Lorelei, especially.

We had two girls, and had SO much fun with names. In the end, neither one of them ended up with the name I thought they would have. My first was supposed to be India, which I do still love, but it just didn't suit her.

My second (who actually ended up with an Irish name) was supposed to be Clara - I love, love, love that name. However, in my post-c-section morphined-up state, our midwife or someone asked us what her name was, and my husband blurted out HIS favourite from the top 5 list -before I had even really had a chance to see her.

He considers it his most cunning coup yet. (and, ok, I do love her name. but Clara! What joy.)

mayberry said...

I used to have Ailsa very high up on my list, but was concerned about it being misspelled/misread as Alisa.

I have a friend whose girls are half-Finnish and they are named Meri, Suvi, and Anja. Pretty nice!

PS sorry for lurking for so long but a name post will always bring me out!

Loth said...

I too liked Ailsa but my husband grew up in Ayrshire and in Ayrshire, the local psychiatric hospital is the Ailsa Craig, or Ailsa for short. And it entered common parlance in Ayrshire as shorthand for going round the twist, as in "If you carry on annoying me like that, I'll end up in the Ailsa!". So, no.

anymommy said...

We have always struggled with girl's names. I love your taste, these are lovely, so sad that they are all on the 'no' list.

You could try going out for a favorite beer ;-)

merinz said...

Our new neighbours (English) have two little girls - one is Freya, the other Indira (called Indy) which is kind of cute.
Just to add an international flavour - some Maori names that roll nicely off the tongue:

(the first syllable is stressed in these names and the 'r' is soft, and the 'a' is pronounced as in car)

Marama
Ariana,
Meri,
Meriana (my daughters middle name - Maori equivalent to Mary, or Marianne or Muriel)
Kiri (made famous by Kiri Te Kanawa the well known opera singer)
Kiriwai
Hinewai
Aroha (love)

And a few of my traditional favourites:

Hannah
Ella,
Emma,

alejna said...

Those are some lovely names. (By the way, It tortures me to realize that you are not planning to share with us the actual name that you will have picked.)

I always planned to name my first daughter Emma. (After Emma Peel, primarily. Though I was fond of Jane Austen's Emma, too.) It was a very uncommon name when I was growing up. I only ever remember meeting one Emma my whole life. But then, bam! It became wildly popular. Something like #4 in the US around the time I was pregnant. You couldn't walk into a store without running into parents calling out to little Emmas to come along. I just couldn't go that way.

ewe are here said...

merinz - Thanks for the list - fascinating names! I particularly like Kiri.



Alejna - I will divulge the name through clues when we've named the wee one, much like we did with Ramekin and BooBaaa. I just won't 'spell it out' on my blog due to g00gle concerns.

Ramekin and Boo name hints were here:

http://thereeweare.blogspot.com/2007/05/whats-in-name.html

http://thereeweare.blogspot.com/2007/05/n-is-for-no-name.html

The LIbrary Lady said...

The worst thing is having 16 little girls at school, daycare, whatever,all with the SAME name. At library story times I am currently deluged with little Isabel/Isabelle/Isabellas, Olivias, Sophias, Emmas,Avas and Ellas right now!

In terms of exotic first names--how exotic is your last name? Will an ethnic name sound weird or give it punch? My girls last name is Filipino(Spanish) and is constantly mangled by folks either in spelling or pronunciation. Hence their far from unusual, easy to spell and pronounce first names.

(Oh,and please spare sweet little Lambchop invented spellings. Names like "Madilyn" and "Kaetlynne" serve only to torture teacher, bureaucrats, and in the end, your kid!)

Make sure you think about nicknames and shortened versions. I love my first name but there are 36 different nicknames for it in English, and the one my parents used is NOT the one people automatically shorten mine to.
And I HATE that nickname. Hence I can't really use my REAL first name and always go by the diminutive.

You'll get your name. And once you have it, you'll KNOW it's the only one she could ever have!

No Mother Earth said...

There are so many names that I love, but I will share one - no two! - that I love that almost no one uses (around here at least): Adelaida and Pippa.

poppy fields said...

Britt
Astrid
Ingrid
Kay
Jane
Piper

thirtysomething said...

agonizing over the perfect name is So important - i agree with you! i did the same with my girls, and with both, the name just spontaneously came to me one day when i was busy doing other things.
as for your list, i love the name Lily. simple, yet elegant and can grow with the little girl into womanhood.
can't wait to see pictures of the sweet one when she gets here!

Susanne said...

If we had had a girl she would have been named Alma Sophia. I don't quite know how I came up with it but it met all our criteria which are: German but pronouncable and recognizable for foreigners, not too common, must work with my husband's last name.

Alma was the name of a great-aunt of mine, and Sophia was my maternal grandmother's middle name. My great-aunt was never called Alma though, it was always Allie.

We had a much harder time finding a boy's name...

Good luck for you.

Alby Mangroves said...

My baby girl didn't have a name for a week post-birth. She was simply known as Peanut.. her real name was a contentious issue, and made even more interesting once we actually picked it, because her older brother couldn't pronounce it, and we began pronouncing it his way, which is technically incorrect, BUT... we like it!
Her other names are after her great-grandmothers, that was the easy part!
May the name-giving force be with you!

niobe said...

I think that so much depends on what the last name will be. There are lots of names that I like in theory, but that just don't work with the last name that the parents are planning to use.

Though I have to say that, if we ever have another child, I am *only* considering names for boys because, as adorable as little girls are, I personally would really, really prefer another boy. (shhh...don't tell anyone).

Kyla said...

We could only agree on one girl's name, so that's what she got!

Anonymous said...

I do not have daughters but net and the name is already chosen: Olívia is in tribute to this beautiful and talented actress is Mariska Hargitay.

Anonymous said...

As I have seen much Law and Order SVU I fell in love with Olívia.Mariska is so beautiful and sweet. This is the name of my daughter's coming soon.

Beck said...

We absolutely could not decide on a name for The Baby and then she came EARLY. Gosh, that was fun.

One of the big reminders for me that Canada and Britain are in fact very different countries is how very different our name popularity charts are. Freya is not anything LIKE a popular name here and I think it's rather lovely.

Stomper Girl said...

Caroline is a nice name :-)

If I'd had a girl she would have been Tess.

imbeingheldhostage said...

Like Kat, I have ALWAYS loved Lorelei, sorry to see it on the poo poo list (my best friend growing up was a Lorelei and she was not Hawaiian, she was a cowgirl).

We were convinced we were having Katherine and I wanted her to be called Kate (maybe Katey). We even bought painted letters for her wall when I was only 7 months pregnant... and then we brought home Miss Ky. At least the K didn't go to waste.

I love your NO GO list, your other list must really have some gorgeous names on it.